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	<title>Comments on: What Must I Do To Be Saved &#8211; Part 1 &#8211; The True Gospel Of Jesus Christ</title>
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		<title>By: Glenda</title>
		<link>http://www.onlinechurch.com.au/what-must-i-do-to-be-saved-part-1-the-true-gospel-of-jesus-christ/comment-page-1#comment-442</link>
		<dc:creator>Glenda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2009 02:54:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Techngo said &quot;...His only concern was your soul not your body.&quot;

The primary concern of Jesus was the welfare of actual real physical people. Jesus prioritized welfare of the body before even considering addressing welfare of the soul, which is housed inside the body.
Jesus healed physical ills before healing spiritual ones
Jesus fed people physical bread because he was concerned for welfare of body
Jesus said the literal hairs on our head are numbered
Jesus resurrected as a physical person and physically ate and drank with his close eye-witness disciples
Jesus assured us that those who will be condemned are those who don&#039;t tend to physical welfare of others eg give a drink of cold water
Jesus told a story of a rich man who ignored the physical welfare of a needy man named Lazarus. 
Jesus was flesh, both before and after death and resurrection. 

The errant teachings that arrived later, promoted an &#039;all-in-the-mind&#039; Jesus and religion, which disdains flesh and physical welfare. Jesus said what we do physically to others, we do to him, whether that be nurture or ignore. 

God could have made us spirit beings only, yet chose to make us physical. Jesus is no exception. Jesus ensured his disciples recognised he was still physical when he resurrected. Jesus cooked them some brekky by the lake ... how is that disinterest in their bodies? 

Jesus said that humans can only harm our bodies, but God can harm both body and soul and should be feared. That does not undermine the body, but highlights God&#039;s power over our total welfare beyond the current life. 

Modern religion promotes an imaginary (all-in-the-mind) feel-good-friend type issue and disdains the physical and that&#039;s evil. The rich man who died could verify that. It&#039;s important that Jesus was and is flesh and was concerned with physical bodies as we should be ... let us treat others physically as we would wish to treat Jesus. 
Jas 2:15  If a brother or sister be naked, and destitute of daily food, 
Jas 2:16  And one of you say unto them, Depart in peace, be ye warmed and filled; notwithstanding ye give them not those things which are needful to the body; what doth it profit?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Techngo said &#8220;&#8230;His only concern was your soul not your body.&#8221;</p>
<p>The primary concern of Jesus was the welfare of actual real physical people. Jesus prioritized welfare of the body before even considering addressing welfare of the soul, which is housed inside the body.<br />
Jesus healed physical ills before healing spiritual ones<br />
Jesus fed people physical bread because he was concerned for welfare of body<br />
Jesus said the literal hairs on our head are numbered<br />
Jesus resurrected as a physical person and physically ate and drank with his close eye-witness disciples<br />
Jesus assured us that those who will be condemned are those who don&#8217;t tend to physical welfare of others eg give a drink of cold water<br />
Jesus told a story of a rich man who ignored the physical welfare of a needy man named Lazarus.<br />
Jesus was flesh, both before and after death and resurrection. </p>
<p>The errant teachings that arrived later, promoted an &#8216;all-in-the-mind&#8217; Jesus and religion, which disdains flesh and physical welfare. Jesus said what we do physically to others, we do to him, whether that be nurture or ignore. </p>
<p>God could have made us spirit beings only, yet chose to make us physical. Jesus is no exception. Jesus ensured his disciples recognised he was still physical when he resurrected. Jesus cooked them some brekky by the lake &#8230; how is that disinterest in their bodies? </p>
<p>Jesus said that humans can only harm our bodies, but God can harm both body and soul and should be feared. That does not undermine the body, but highlights God&#8217;s power over our total welfare beyond the current life. </p>
<p>Modern religion promotes an imaginary (all-in-the-mind) feel-good-friend type issue and disdains the physical and that&#8217;s evil. The rich man who died could verify that. It&#8217;s important that Jesus was and is flesh and was concerned with physical bodies as we should be &#8230; let us treat others physically as we would wish to treat Jesus.<br />
Jas 2:15  If a brother or sister be naked, and destitute of daily food,<br />
Jas 2:16  And one of you say unto them, Depart in peace, be ye warmed and filled; notwithstanding ye give them not those things which are needful to the body; what doth it profit?</p>
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		<title>By: Glenda</title>
		<link>http://www.onlinechurch.com.au/what-must-i-do-to-be-saved-part-1-the-true-gospel-of-jesus-christ/comment-page-1#comment-437</link>
		<dc:creator>Glenda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 13:59:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jesus loved God and fellow man to the death. It was the ultimate self-sacrificing love (rather than common self-serving &#039;affection&#039;). Jesus lived the ultimate love we are commanded to copy
JN 10:17 Therefore doth my Father love me, because I lay down my life, that I might take it again. 
JN 15:13 Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends. 

MT 16:24 Then said Jesus unto his disciples, If any [man] will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow me. 
MK 8:34 And when he had called the people [unto him] with his disciples also, he said unto them, Whosoever will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow me. 
LK 9:23 And he said to [them] all, If any [man] will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross daily, and follow me. 
LK 14:27 And whosoever doth not bear his cross, and come after me, cannot be my disciple. 

Loving to that extent is way beyond what I understood previous scriptural commands to mean. It&#039;s a very scary demonstration of ultimate love. I understand why the apostles fled because the torture involved in Jesus demonstrating that love is horific. What enormous love!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jesus loved God and fellow man to the death. It was the ultimate self-sacrificing love (rather than common self-serving &#8216;affection&#8217;). Jesus lived the ultimate love we are commanded to copy<br />
JN 10:17 Therefore doth my Father love me, because I lay down my life, that I might take it again.<br />
JN 15:13 Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends. </p>
<p>MT 16:24 Then said Jesus unto his disciples, If any [man] will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow me.<br />
MK 8:34 And when he had called the people [unto him] with his disciples also, he said unto them, Whosoever will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow me.<br />
LK 9:23 And he said to [them] all, If any [man] will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross daily, and follow me.<br />
LK 14:27 And whosoever doth not bear his cross, and come after me, cannot be my disciple. </p>
<p>Loving to that extent is way beyond what I understood previous scriptural commands to mean. It&#8217;s a very scary demonstration of ultimate love. I understand why the apostles fled because the torture involved in Jesus demonstrating that love is horific. What enormous love!</p>
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		<title>By: A Watchman</title>
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		<dc:creator>A Watchman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 13:18:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John 13:34 - &quot;A new commandment I give to you, that you love one another, even as I have loved you, that you also love one another.&quot;

There is a whole sermon to be preached about what YAHU&#039;SHUA meant by &quot;A new commandment&quot; and why He called it new.

Christianity will tell you that the new commandment that He gave was to love one another. But it is not...
YHVH has been commanding us to love our neighbor since the beginning.

Leviticus 19:18
&#039;You shall not take vengeance, nor bear any grudge against the sons of your people, but you shall love your neighbor as yourself; I am the LORD.

Leviticus 19:34
&#039;The stranger who resides with you shall be to you as the native among you, and you shall love him as yourself, for you were aliens in the land of Egypt; I am the LORD your God.

Read 1 John 2:6-9
 6the one who says he abides in Him ought himself to walk in the same manner as He walked. 
 7Beloved, I am not writing a new commandment to you, but an old commandment which you have had from the beginning; the old commandment is the word which you have heard. 
 8On the other hand, I am writing a new commandment to you, which is true in Him and in you, because the darkness is passing away and the true Light is already shining. 
 9The one who says he is in the Light and yet hates his brother is in the darkness until now. 
 10The one who loves his brother abides in the Light and there is no cause for stumbling in him.

John explains very well that the so called &quot;new&quot; commandment written in John 13:34 is &#039;not a new commandment to you, but an old commandment which you have had from the beginning; the old commandment is the word which you have heard.&#039;

Then John explains &#039;On the other hand, I am writing a new commandment to you, which is true in Him and in you&#039;.

John tells us that &quot;love one another&quot; is not a new commandment, but an old commandment which you have had from the beginning (1 John 2:7) but on the other hand... there is something new about this commandment, which is true in Him and in you, and the true Light is already shining (1 John 2:8).

The thing that is new here is that YAHU&#039;SHUA said: &quot;even as I have loved you, that you also love one another.&quot; What is &quot;new&quot; is that the life of YAHU&#039;SHUA gave us a living example of the love that we should be walking in. John explains this when he says &quot;the one who says he abides in Him ought himself to walk in the same manner as He walked (1 John 2:6).&quot; And again when he says &quot;a new commandment to you, which is true in Him (1 John 2:8)&quot;

&quot;the one who says he abides in Him ought himself to walk in the same manner as He walked.&quot; &quot;a new commandment to you, &quot;, &quot;which is true in Him and in you, because the darkness is passing away and the true Light is already shining.&quot; &quot;The one who says he is in the Light and yet hates his brother is in the darkness until now&quot;.

The &quot;new&quot; commandment is not &quot;Love one another&quot;.
The &quot;new&quot; commandment was YAHU&#039;SHUA saying &quot;Love as I Love; I am your example&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John 13:34 &#8211; &#8220;A new commandment I give to you, that you love one another, even as I have loved you, that you also love one another.&#8221;</p>
<p>There is a whole sermon to be preached about what YAHU&#8217;SHUA meant by &#8220;A new commandment&#8221; and why He called it new.</p>
<p>Christianity will tell you that the new commandment that He gave was to love one another. But it is not&#8230;<br />
YHVH has been commanding us to love our neighbor since the beginning.</p>
<p>Leviticus 19:18<br />
&#8216;You shall not take vengeance, nor bear any grudge against the sons of your people, but you shall love your neighbor as yourself; I am the LORD.</p>
<p>Leviticus 19:34<br />
&#8216;The stranger who resides with you shall be to you as the native among you, and you shall love him as yourself, for you were aliens in the land of Egypt; I am the LORD your God.</p>
<p>Read 1 John 2:6-9<br />
 6the one who says he abides in Him ought himself to walk in the same manner as He walked.<br />
 7Beloved, I am not writing a new commandment to you, but an old commandment which you have had from the beginning; the old commandment is the word which you have heard.<br />
 8On the other hand, I am writing a new commandment to you, which is true in Him and in you, because the darkness is passing away and the true Light is already shining.<br />
 9The one who says he is in the Light and yet hates his brother is in the darkness until now.<br />
 10The one who loves his brother abides in the Light and there is no cause for stumbling in him.</p>
<p>John explains very well that the so called &#8220;new&#8221; commandment written in John 13:34 is &#8216;not a new commandment to you, but an old commandment which you have had from the beginning; the old commandment is the word which you have heard.&#8217;</p>
<p>Then John explains &#8216;On the other hand, I am writing a new commandment to you, which is true in Him and in you&#8217;.</p>
<p>John tells us that &#8220;love one another&#8221; is not a new commandment, but an old commandment which you have had from the beginning (1 John 2:7) but on the other hand&#8230; there is something new about this commandment, which is true in Him and in you, and the true Light is already shining (1 John 2:8).</p>
<p>The thing that is new here is that YAHU&#8217;SHUA said: &#8220;even as I have loved you, that you also love one another.&#8221; What is &#8220;new&#8221; is that the life of YAHU&#8217;SHUA gave us a living example of the love that we should be walking in. John explains this when he says &#8220;the one who says he abides in Him ought himself to walk in the same manner as He walked (1 John 2:6).&#8221; And again when he says &#8220;a new commandment to you, which is true in Him (1 John 2:8)&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;the one who says he abides in Him ought himself to walk in the same manner as He walked.&#8221; &#8220;a new commandment to you, &#8220;, &#8220;which is true in Him and in you, because the darkness is passing away and the true Light is already shining.&#8221; &#8220;The one who says he is in the Light and yet hates his brother is in the darkness until now&#8221;.</p>
<p>The &#8220;new&#8221; commandment is not &#8220;Love one another&#8221;.<br />
The &#8220;new&#8221; commandment was YAHU&#8217;SHUA saying &#8220;Love as I Love; I am your example&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Glenda</title>
		<link>http://www.onlinechurch.com.au/what-must-i-do-to-be-saved-part-1-the-true-gospel-of-jesus-christ/comment-page-1#comment-434</link>
		<dc:creator>Glenda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 12:47:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>God loves perfectly.
God teaches us how to love properly.
The commandments actually define love 

Mat 22:36  Master, which is the great commandment in the law? 
Mat 22:37  Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind. 
Mat 22:38  This is the first and great commandment. 
Mat 22:39  And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. 
Mat 22:40  On these two commandments hang ***ALL*** the law and the prophets. 

1JN 4:21 And this commandment have we from him, That he who loveth God love his brother also. 
1JN 5:2 By this we know that we love the children of God, when we love God, and keep his commandments. 
1JN 5:3 For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous. 


JN 14:21 He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him. 
JN 15:10 If ye keep my commandments, ye shall abide in my love; even as I have kept my Father&#039;s commandments, and abide in his love. 

The commandments are do-able
LK 1:6 And they were both righteous before God, walking in all the commandments and ordinances of the Lord blameless. 

2JN 1:6 And this is love, that we walk after his commandments. This is the commandment, That, as ye have heard from the beginning, ye should walk in it. 

yep, the commandments are grounded in love for God and fellow man and are do-able. Anyone who claims the commandments are not do-able is actually claiming it&#039;s not possible to love God and fellow man. 

Paul and his followers disagree</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>God loves perfectly.<br />
God teaches us how to love properly.<br />
The commandments actually define love </p>
<p>Mat 22:36  Master, which is the great commandment in the law?<br />
Mat 22:37  Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.<br />
Mat 22:38  This is the first and great commandment.<br />
Mat 22:39  And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.<br />
Mat 22:40  On these two commandments hang ***ALL*** the law and the prophets. </p>
<p>1JN 4:21 And this commandment have we from him, That he who loveth God love his brother also.<br />
1JN 5:2 By this we know that we love the children of God, when we love God, and keep his commandments.<br />
1JN 5:3 For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous. </p>
<p>JN 14:21 He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him.<br />
JN 15:10 If ye keep my commandments, ye shall abide in my love; even as I have kept my Father&#8217;s commandments, and abide in his love. </p>
<p>The commandments are do-able<br />
LK 1:6 And they were both righteous before God, walking in all the commandments and ordinances of the Lord blameless. </p>
<p>2JN 1:6 And this is love, that we walk after his commandments. This is the commandment, That, as ye have heard from the beginning, ye should walk in it. </p>
<p>yep, the commandments are grounded in love for God and fellow man and are do-able. Anyone who claims the commandments are not do-able is actually claiming it&#8217;s not possible to love God and fellow man. </p>
<p>Paul and his followers disagree</p>
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		<title>By: techngo</title>
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		<dc:creator>techngo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 03:09:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What you have to do is depart yourself from the world. Be set-apart from the world.
This is the baptism of the Holy Spirit, denied self and pickup the cross.

Yahshua is your guide, the first raise from the dead. His only concern was your soul not your body.

Yes, you can pray a simple prayer and then move on but He demands obedience above all.

The bridegroom is coming, whom will he find left on earth that is just and holy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What you have to do is depart yourself from the world. Be set-apart from the world.<br />
This is the baptism of the Holy Spirit, denied self and pickup the cross.</p>
<p>Yahshua is your guide, the first raise from the dead. His only concern was your soul not your body.</p>
<p>Yes, you can pray a simple prayer and then move on but He demands obedience above all.</p>
<p>The bridegroom is coming, whom will he find left on earth that is just and holy.</p>
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