Please refer to this website for a clearer presentation of the YHVH inscription on the cross of Yeshua.:

http://www.messengers-of-messiah.org/GodsMasterPlan/Ch10(1_21_11Final)Pilate’sInscription.pdf

Thank you.
Nati

After the river Jordan incident, the Spirit of the Father desended upon Jesus and remained in him, and Jesus became Jesus Christ, the annointed one.
Now 2 person are in the body of Jesus, namely Jesus the man and the Father God.

Before the River Jordan incident (RJ), Jesus could perform no miracles because he is just a man. But after the RJ, it was the Father, in Jesus, who performed all the miracles. That is why Jesus said “he could do nothing”. What he saw the Father do, that he does also. Jesus told the truth. All the miracles and the Truth spoken are from the Father.

The Father also spoke thru Jesus and miracles happen just like in the book of Genesis . The words of Jesus are either from the Father or inspired by the Father.

God cannot die. Even after the whipping and being nailed onto the cross, Jesus did not die. Only after Father left him, Jesus cried out and died.

Many things about God, the church has got it wrong. The trinity of God is true but certainly not as explained in the church.

Regards
Lee

God made man in God’s image. Man was created in fertile mature form like God.

Man was told to multiply because God had created man capable of this, having both male and female aspects/sides/ribs (H6763 translated as ‘rib’ but is literally a ’side’ eg side of ark etc). GEN 1:27 So God created man in his [own] image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.
(there is no Strongs number for ‘them’ in any of the ‘them’ verses about creation of man, because can’t associate Strongs number to something not there. In Gen 1:29, the ‘you’ that God says to male-female is inserted as a singular entity H853)

Later God extracted the woman from the man and closed that side of man, which is why male and female revert to one flesh in marriage. Anyway, the point is that God created a mature being in His image. Later, the man messed up and blamed his wife and also God for giving Him a woman. GEN 3:12 And the man said, The woman whom thou gavest [to be] with me, she gave me of the tree, and I did eat.
Then man then produced a being in his own image and that being was not mature. GEN 5:3 And Adam lived an hundred and thirty years, and begat [a son] in his own likeness, after his image; and called his name Seth:

Mankind is imperfect and must grow to maturity and become stable, while God is perfect and does not change or go through stages.

God is not a man, or a son of man (Num 23:19, 1 Sam 15:29, Job 9:32), while Jesus assures us that Jesus is a man (Jn 8:40) and also a son of man (Mt 16:13).

Jesus assured us that God is a Spirit (Jn 4:24) and Jesus assured us that Jesus is not a spirit (Lk 24:39)
(God was recognised as being a Spirit in OT: NUM 16:22 And they fell upon their faces, and said, O God, the God of the spirits of all flesh, shall one man sin, and wilt thou be wroth with all the congregation?
God of spirits was requested to place ‘a man’ over God’s people
NUM 27:16 Let the LORD, the God of the spirits of all flesh, set a man over the congregation,
and God agreed: DEUT 18:15 The LORD thy God will raise up unto thee a Prophet from the midst of thee, of thy brethren, like unto me; unto him ye shall hearken;
Jesus confirmed this referred to himself: JN 5:46 For had ye believed Moses, ye would have believed me: for he wrote of me. )

Jesus confirmed God’s Law that we can be forgiven for speaking wrongly against Jesus, but we will not be forgiven for speaking wrongly against God (Mt 12:32-32, Lk 12:10), EX 20:7 Thou shalt not take the name of the LORD thy God in vain; for the LORD will not hold him guiltless that taketh his name in vain.
so obvioulsy Jesus and God are not the same

The Spirit existed at the same time as Jesus, since the Spirit descended onto Jesus, rather than the Spirit transforming into Jesus.

All scripture assures us that God has no visible form (Deut 4:12, 15) and has never been seen with human eyes (Jn 1:18, 1 Jn 4:12, Jn 5:37), yet Jesus was seen with human eyes (Jn 6:36). We can see God reflected in people by their ‘good’ ie ‘Godly’ (Mt 19:17, Mk 10:18, Lk 18:19) deeds/actions (Mt 5:16, Mt 9:8 ) and the Godly/spiritual words coming from their mouths (Mt 10:20)

Jesus had a God and this is the True God that Jesus proclaimed verbally:
JN 20:17 Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and [to] my God, and your God.
JN 1:18 No man hath seen God at any time; the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared [him].
JN 17:3 And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.

Instead of figuring it out for ourselves, we simply need to believe flesh Jesus, since if we look at the deeds of Jesus and heed the words from his mouth, we can see and hear God, since Jesus did God’s works and spoke God’s Words. Jesus confirmed that it was God within him Who caused the actions and words proceeding from flesh Jesus: JN 14:10 Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works. JN 12:50 And I know that his commandment is life everlasting: whatsoever I speak therefore, even as the Father said unto me, so I speak. JN 6:63 It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, [they] are spirit, and [they] are life. JN 3:34 For he whom God hath sent speaketh the words of God: for God giveth not the Spirit by measure [unto him].

We can believe the name of Jesus ie YHWH saves
JN 1:12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, [even] to them that believe on his name:
JN 5:24 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.
JN 6:29 Jesus answered and said unto them, This is the work of God, that ye believe on him whom he hath sent.
1JN 5:13 These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God; that ye may know that ye have eternal life, and that ye may believe on the name of the Son of God.
JN 17:3 And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.

The very earliest Church believed that Jesus was a man and that is what they preached. ACTS 2:22 Ye men of Israel, hear these words; Jesus of Nazareth, a man approved of God among you by miracles and wonders and signs, which God did by him in the midst of you, as ye yourselves also know:

The message changed after that, as Jesus warned it would in the tares parable … while men slept something different was sown

You are right that Jesus focused on gracious deeds and did not seek or demand worship for himself

You are right that it’s a lot to think about and truth needs to be sought individually. Very few find the narrow way that leads to life (truth/buried treasure/pearl of great price), because it costs everything and is hard rather than easy, so is not popular. You will not find truth in worldly religious institutions (churches) who serve money and governments (including government registrations of marriages etc).
Happy hunting Stan

There was a time when I was a baby, there was a time when I was a teenager, there is a time (now) when I am a grown man. I was the same person, just in three different time frames. It doesn’t mean I am composed of three different individuals.

One thing I have noticed, Jesus never demanded a worship service for himself. He did seem to demand that his followers wash each others feet, that is, serve and help each other.

There are verses where Jesus seems to indicate that he is God himself and other verses where he speaks of God as a seperate entity. There have been different schools of thought regarding the nature of Jesus, some early christians believed he wasn’t a man at all, just God with the form of a man. Others thought he never existed at all but was an example of what a perfect man would be.

We all have to sort this out for self’s, and it is a lot to think about.

The scriptures that you have quoted are often used to try to establish a scriptural foundation for the trinity doctrine. A thorough study of these verses however, only consolidates the fact that trinitarians really have no solid scriptural foundation for their false 3 gods in one, god man Trinity doctrine.

Remember… The scriptures that you are quoting have been handed down to the christian church for hundreds of years by the traditions of the Christian forefathers, The roman catholic church. The same church that for more than 1600 years tortured and killed more than 50,000,000 people that did not agree with their false pagan 3 gods in 1 doctrine during the dark ages, not to mention the spanish inquisition.

These same christian forefathers whose doctrine you uphold killed people for even having a copy of the scriptures. They have kept hidden for centuries ancient sacred scripts (some even supposedly written by the very disciples of Yahu’shua Himself) that have been rediscovered in recent history that actually repudiate many of the foundational doctrines of todays Christian church.

I would like to point out some facts about the three verses that you have quoted that you may not have realized (although in reality, all I can do is elaborate on what Glenda has already posted).

1. -* Gen.1:26a And God said,Let us make man in our image, after our likeness KJV

“And elohiyim said,Let us make man in our image,after our likeness
Strong’s H430 – ‘elohiym אלהים
1) (plural)
a) rulers, judges
b) divine ones
c) angels
d) gods
2) (plural intensive – singular meaning)
a) god, goddess
b) godlike one
c) works or special possessions of God
d) the (true) God
e) God

plural of H433 – ‘elowahh אלוה
1) God
2) false god

probably prolonged (emphat.) from H410
Strong’s H410 – ‘el אל
1) god, god-like one, mighty one
a) mighty men, men of rank, mighty heroes
b) angels
c) god, false god, (demons, imaginations)
d) God, the one true God, Jehovah
2) mighty things in nature
3) strength, power

shortened from H352
Strong’s H352 – ‘ayil איל
1) ram
a) ram (as food)
b) ram (as sacrifice)
c) ram (skin dyed red, for tabernacle)
2) pillar, door post, jambs, pilaster
3) strong man, leader, chief
4) mighty tree, terebinth

from the same as H193
Strong’s H193 – ‘uwl אול
1) prominence
a) body, belly (contemptuous)
b) nobles, wealthy men

from an unused root meaning to twist, i.e. (by implication) be strong

If you believe that the name elohiym is the name of God Then you are headed into idotatry.

Just because something is called (אלהים ‘elohiym) isn’t a signal for you to worship it! When the scriptures refer to something as (אלהים ‘elohiym) that Does Not make it equal with YHVH or part of some trinity!

The word (אלהים ‘elohiym) is not only used in reference to YHVH (or God)…

(אלהים ‘elohiym) is also used in the scriptures with reference to judges.
Exd 21:6
Then his master shall bring him unto the judges (אלהים ‘elohiym);
Exd 22:8 If the thief be not found, then the master of the house shall be brought unto the judges (אלהים ‘elohiym),

Are They Equal with God Or Part of Your Trinity??

Is a goddess part of your (אלהים ‘elohiym) trinity??
1Ki 11:5
For Solomon went after Ashtoreth the goddess (אלהים ‘elohiym)
1Ki 11:33
Because that they have forsaken me, and have worshipped Ashtoreth the goddess (אלהים ‘elohiym) of the Zidonians, Chemosh the god (אלהים ‘elohiym) of the Moabites, and Milcom the god (אלהים ‘elohiym) of the children of Ammon, and have not walked in my ways, to do [that which is] right in mine eyes, and [to keep] my statutes and my judgments, as [did] David his father.

Do you really worship anything just because it is named (אלהים ‘elohiym)???

Do you also worship angels???
Psa 8:5
For thou hast made him a little lower than the angels (אלהים ‘elohiym), and hast crowned him with glory and honour.

יהוה YHVH is His name!
Not אלהים ‘elohiym

Conclusion; ‘elohiym = One God. Three distinct manifestations thereof… = FALSE

2. -* John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word,and the Word was with God and the Word was God.

Absolutely.

Genesis 1
The Creation
1In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.
2The earth was formless and void, and darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was moving over the surface of the waters.
3Then God said,

The very first thing that the bible tells us that God did (besides moving over the surface of the waters) was to speak.
“God Said”…
God spoke… He spoke a word… The word emanated from Him and was with Him… The whole of creation listened and performed His will according to His word. The Word was God… It was His will spoken aloud… and everything Had To conform to it.

> “God Said”… Let there be light: and there was light.
- But the light was Not equal to God nor part of some trinity.
> And “God Said”… Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters. And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which [were] under the firmament from the waters which [were] above the firmament: and it was so.
- But the firmament was Not equal to God nor part of some trinity.
> And “God Said”… Let the waters under the heaven be gathered together unto one place, and let the dry [land] appear: and it was so
- But the waters was Not equal to God nor part of some trinity.
> And “God Said”… Let the earth bring forth grass, the herb yielding seed, [and] the fruit tree yielding fruit after his kind, whose seed [is] in itself, upon the earth: and it was so
- But the grass, the herb yielding seed, [and] the fruit tree yielding fruit after his kind was Not equal to God nor part of some trinity.
> And “God Said”… Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years: And let them be for lights in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth: and it was so
- But the lights in the firmament was Not equal to God nor part of some trinity.

It was His Word.

And His Word became established.

But it was Not equal to God nor part of some trinity.

3. -* 1John 5:7 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost:and these three are one.

The verse you have quoted above (1John 5:7) is an addition to the original transcripts of 1 John and is found only in late manuscripts. Virtually ALL modern scholars AGREE that 1 John 5:6,7 were tampered with and they refuse to include the falsified text.

However the KJV is a notable exception.

“Elohim is a plural form which is often used in Hebrew to denote plentitude of might” (Hertz, The Pentateuch and Haftorahs).

“The form of the word, Elohim, is plural. The Hebrews pluralized nouns to express greatness or majesty” (Flanders, Cresson; Introduction to the Bible).

God created. The Hebrew noun Elohim is plural but the verb is singular, a normal usage in the OT when reference is to the one true God. This use of the plural expresses intensification rather than number and has been called the plural of majesty, or of potentiality. — New International Version Study Bible, Grand Rapids: Zondervan, 1985, p. 6.

This word [elohim], which is generally viewed as the plural of eloah [Strong's #433], is found far more frequently in Scripture than either el or eloah for the true God. The plural ending is usually described as a plural of majesty and not intended as a true plural when used of God. This is seen in the fact that the noun elohim is consistently used with singular verb forms and with adjectives and pronouns in the singular. — Theological Wordbook of the Old Testament, Volume 1 (edited by R. Laird Harris, Gleason L. Archer Jr., and Bruce K. Waltke, Chicago: Moody Press, 1980, page 44):

Those who love Him, Keep His commandments.

Those who have ears, let them hear.